Thursday, April 7, 2011

HW#42

My peers Anthony Vargas, Jay McCarthy and I decided to have a personal experience for the assignment. We went to St. Luke's Roosevelt hospital on 59th street, 10th av and spoke with three nurses about their views concerning birth and the practices surrounding it. Here are the core questions that were asked (some improvising was done during the process):
-What inspired you to choose this occupation and/or what do you enjoy most about it?
-How do you feel about the rising rates of cesarean sections?
-Do you think the use of epidural and pitocin is more beneficial to the mothers and their child or to the doctors? Why/why not?
-How do you feel about midwifery and homebirths?
-Do you think that it’s right that doctors are generally trained as if every birth was an emergency situation? Why/why not?

Person #1:
This nurse was very honest and straightforward with her answers as she seemed to be fine with our asking the questions. She enjoys the occupation because she genuinely cares about helping women and children. This woman was interesting, because she seemed to lean towards midwives rather than obstetricians despite her occupation. She mentioned that she did not support the rise in Cesareans, stating that they were used “judiciously” and to a doctor or patients liking. She claimed that patients may have a cesarean on a certain day just so that they would not be in the hospital on another. I agree with her because a c-section should not be some kind of luxury to someone, it should only be used in cases where it is vital. This woman also disputed the use of epidural and pitocin. She felt that it is a bad decision to use it and in cases where it is used it should be the minimum, “so rather than using six shots use two.” In her talk of midwifery she mentioned “The Business of Being Born” and spoke of how it was a great movie, stating that she felt midwives are able to handle births just as well and any doctor would. In fact, she gave birth via midwife to both of her kids and, surprisingly enough, without the use of any drugs. When it came to the training of the doctors, she felt that at the end of the day the most important thing with the birth is that the baby gets out okay, regardless of the process. Despite expressing that, “birth is one of the most natural processes and it should go back to being that way” she still felt that the most important thing all in all, is that the baby gets out safely. When asked about the training of the doctors, she felt that at the end of the day the most important thing with the birth is that the baby gets out okay, regardless of the process. Despite expressing that, “birth is one of the most natural processes and it should go back to being that way” she still felt that the most important thing all in all, is that the baby gets out safely. This makes me wonder what life she would choose if given an ultimatum: the mother or the child?

Person #2:
This woman was by far the vaguest of all the interviewees. The seemed uncomfortable, possibly because of the room we were in (a slightly smaller room than the last, about a forth of Andy’s) or because she may have felt pressured by us. Her job title was the director of parent and family education and she chose this occupation because she feels that it is very important for patients to be knowledgeable on the subject. I wonder if the information provided by her is biased towards the obstetricians, her responses give reason to question how impartial her ‘education’ may be. She was consistently evasive in her responses and avoided saying anything that may undermine obstetricians. When asked about C-section rates, she said that Roosevelt hospital has the lowest C-section rates in the city. This is an interesting statistic and I wonder if this is true (although I could not find any recent and reliable sources to verify, that does not mean that she is a liar, I am simply a poor researcher). When asked about midwifery, she simply said that “it is great” and elected not to elaborate. She came off almost defensive when asked about the doctors training and said that doctors are trained to handle every situation they are given. She claimed that they are prepared to handle both normal and high risk situations.

Person #3:
This woman was arguably the most helpful of the three. She chose the profession out of a childhood desire to learn about birth and how it all worked, which has lead her to being the manager of the nurses department. She was honest and by far the most elaborate with all of her answers. She only supports cesareans in situations of necessity. With homebirths, she said that they are “prevalent” in her country (Jamaica) and that she still supports them. When it came to speaking about the training of the obstetricians, she said that “it’s not that the doctors are not properly trained, they just are not fully educated.” In saying this she agreed that they handle situations as if they are in emergency and said that the trainings for doctors should be different. During her training she was trained like a midwife and working in the field that she does, surrounded by doctors and many unnatural births she said that they are just accustomed to the emergency situations. This made me wonder what the point of so much schooling to be a doctor is if the majority of them are not able to handle a ‘normal’ birth situation. This also makes me wonder about the recent birth of my almost two month old baby brother. I was at the hospital with my family post-delivery and was told that everything went smoothly. I then learned that the birth was via a cesarean and wondered why, although I never got around to having that conversation. My stepmother and her doctor are just another example of how cesareans are abused in this generation of mothers and doctors are not as knowledgeable as they should be and do not appreciate the ‘birthing experience.’

4 comments:

  1. With the birth of my second child just two months ago, I can most certainly say I am all for modern technology and medicine. My greatest fear was the thought of losing my wife or child during childbirth. Not having done any actual research on this subject, but I'm pretty sure deaths from complications to mother and/or child is a lot less common these days, and I truly believe it is due to modern medicine. Not that complications still will not arise today, but to me the utilization of modern technology and medicine minimizes a tragic outcome. As for C-sections, the fact that the cost is rising is disturbing. I do feel that doctors use this method only if it is necessary and in the best interest healthwise for mother and child. Hopefully the rising cost of this procedure does not affect a woman's decision as they do still have to give consent, and may lean towards vaginal birth, although it may not be the best for the baby. This may hold especially true when it comes to mothers w/out medical insurance.
    In the case of epidural; it was the only thing that gave my wife comfort, so I'm all for it. To me, the more comfortable a mother is during birth, it will result in a much less stressful experience for mom and baby.

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  2. For this project, you had the experience of being able to interview three women at a hospital about their opinion on midwifery, obsterics, and the rise in c-section.

    I really enjoyed reading this post in addition to listening to your elevator speech. The three women you interviewed had different reactions and opinions which was very interesting.

    This matters to me because its always nice to listen to the opinion of the people who actually work in hospitals. I found it suprising that one of the interviewed women was open about her opinions about midwifery, and I find a relief in a way.

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  3. Hi Rossi,
    I don’t know you and I don’t think you are in my grade?..I’m in 12th you?.
    Well I was snooping around and I saw your name and I said Why not!. MY name is leticia.
    I really liked your blog because I never heard a prospective from a nurse. I liked the questions you asked because; it gets into details with what the nurse thinks. For person #1 ... I like the line when she mentioned "used “judiciously” and to a doctor or patients liking. She claimed that patients may have a cesarean on a certain day just so that they would not be in the hospital on another" I think that explains, the point of doctors ability to do what they please and get the mothers out as soon as possible.

    For person # 2 I liked how she backed up the hospital, it explains she is either against it or with it but she is scared, she could lose her job "When asked about C-section rates, she said that Roosevelt hospital has the lowest C-section rates in the city. “Do you think if you interview outside the hospital it would have been different.


    For person #3 I liked how she was honest and straight forward. I liked she compared Jamaica and US she was not saying one is better than other. I also liked when she mentioned “it’s not that the doctors are not properly trained, they just are not fully educated.” In saying this she agreed that they handle situations as if they are in emergency and said that the trainings for doctors should be different. During her training she was trained like a midwife and working in the field that she does, surrounded by doctors and many unnatural births she said that they are just accustomed to the emergency situations" Which made ask do doctors want to know how to do natural birth? or are they force to not be educated about it.?.

    Overall I think you did a good job, Its nice to hear from people who work in the hospital,. This made me feel that doctors of a sense of people views.

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  4. Rossi,

    I believe the most effective way to learn is through experiences so it was smart of you to go out of your way and converse with these nurses for a real honest outlook on this medical system. The voices of the nurses are very un-sung so it was nice to see their perspective. Based on these answers it seems that a nurse's main objective is to be protective; either of the women and newborns, the doctors, or the hospitals. These nurses seemed to be very informed about their area of interest and are definitely aware of what goes on behind the scenes. I'm glad that they are there and hopefully they keep the obstetricians they work with very grounded.

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